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having said all of this what do we want for pentagon leadership? what should we want to make sure we are managing the reality behind these numbers in a politically smart and security smart way? it is not clear to me it is a bad idea to have someone who isn't steeped in pentagon management and having someone who does come from outside or hasn't spent is or her whole career looking his or her way up to pentagon management and has the single most important ability in whoever the next secretary of defense to say why do we do it that way? the person who has been willing to challenge that repeatedly would be my lead candidate. [applause] >> winslow wheeler, would you like to respond? >> sure. a perfectly reasonable challenge. pentagon leadership, let's call it secretary of defense over secretary of state, you don't need a competitor, to idly think over a notion of what we should do here or there. you don't want a second secretary of state. second you want somebody with demonstrated emphasis, emphasis on the word demonstrated confidence, somebody from bus
having said all of this what do we want for pentagon leadership? what should we want to make sure we are managing the reality behind these numbers in a politically smart and security smart way? it is not clear to me it is a bad idea to have someone who isn't steeped in pentagon management and having someone who does come from outside or hasn't spent is or her whole career looking his or her way up to pentagon management and has the single most important ability in whoever the next secretary of...
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but some think that michelle will be the first ever woman to head the pentagon. and then in the senate, rhode island senator jack reed, and john kerry, the man who talked bob gates into staying at defense in the beginning of the president's first term. and then there's john kerry and some thought there if rice gets stayed, they still would want to put kerry in the cabinet somewhere. and then there's attorney general eric holder. long time target of conservatives. he said he's undecided about whether he wants to stay on. >> that's something that i'm in the process now of trying to determine. the first step has already occurred, that is the president has been re-elected. and i will have to think about can i contribute in a second term. i will have to obviously talk to him, speak of members in my family, particularly one, who i'm married to. and ask myself, the question about, you know, do i think that there are things that i still love to do, do i have -- let some gas still left in the tank. it's been an interesting and tough four years. >>> well, the inevitable ca
but some think that michelle will be the first ever woman to head the pentagon. and then in the senate, rhode island senator jack reed, and john kerry, the man who talked bob gates into staying at defense in the beginning of the president's first term. and then there's john kerry and some thought there if rice gets stayed, they still would want to put kerry in the cabinet somewhere. and then there's attorney general eric holder. long time target of conservatives. he said he's undecided about...
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. >> and though he praised allen, panetta said he felt it was important to refer the matter to the pentagon's inpeck tore general. the senior defense official tells nbc news that panetta didn't make this decision lightly. secretary clinton acknowledged she has talked to u.s. partners about the allen case but says it won't harm the war effort. >> general allen is a distinguished marine and commander who has been an important part of the nato isap mission in afghanistan. there's been a lot of conversation, as you might expect, bob, but no concern whatsoever being expressed to us because the mission has been set forth. it is being carried out. >> the head of nato also told reporters today in brussels that he has full confidence in general allen. we are also learning more about the 20,000 to 30,000 documents that include some e-mails between general allen and the tampa socialite jill kelley which the pentagon calls potentially inappropriate communications. the fbi has characterized some of the e-mails as, quote, flirtatious. the general strongly denies any misconduct and the fbi has not found any
. >> and though he praised allen, panetta said he felt it was important to refer the matter to the pentagon's inpeck tore general. the senior defense official tells nbc news that panetta didn't make this decision lightly. secretary clinton acknowledged she has talked to u.s. partners about the allen case but says it won't harm the war effort. >> general allen is a distinguished marine and commander who has been an important part of the nato isap mission in afghanistan. there's been...
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the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula broadwell's home, the home she shares with her family. she had given them permission to go into the home. they took out boxes and apparently photo es. joining me now is jim frederick, editor at "time" magazine. i heard people joke about this and all the salacious titles. but at the heart of this are some serious and legitimate conce concerns. the president not making any huge pronouncements, but starting with general allen here, the e-mails were exchanged over a two-year span. his confirmation is being held up. that's a big deal. >> it's a huge deal. the story is changing by the hour
the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted to an affair with dvp dp. last night fbi agents searched paula...
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and in the pentagon will, this this is actually true. so why don't we use nuclear weapons to assure deterrence and we don't have to station conventional forces in korea, said. or we could reduce the number of conventional forces. you see this interesting trade-offs of what is cheap. and when you are discussing budgetary questions in the absence of strategy, in the absence of a really hard strategic look at some of these things, we're going to get into this discussion of this cheap in the short term and then there's cheap in the long-term which will let in some of the ways that mike hanna colleagues have mentioned. i'll just make one last slide a provocative point to start a fight among the panel members come and kiss her but i would disagree with winslow. so having said all of this, what do we want the pentagon leadership? what should we want to make sure that we are actually managing, managing the reality behind these numbers allegedly smart and any security smartly. it's frankly not clear to me that it is a bad idea to have someone who
and in the pentagon will, this this is actually true. so why don't we use nuclear weapons to assure deterrence and we don't have to station conventional forces in korea, said. or we could reduce the number of conventional forces. you see this interesting trade-offs of what is cheap. and when you are discussing budgetary questions in the absence of strategy, in the absence of a really hard strategic look at some of these things, we're going to get into this discussion of this cheap in the short...
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and h leaves that will allow obama more leeway cutting the pentagon. otherwise panetta could resign on principle if the sequestration were to happen. that would be embarrassing. >> bret: so you think it doesn't happen? >> i think he will likely be eased out. so there will be somebody more pliable at defense. >> i think the term for is it "flexibility" in this administration, second term. >> malleable. >> the president prefers flexibility. >> he will be flexible after the election. he told his good russian friend. >> bret: this is the parlor game we play, finding out who will be in the cabinet, the second term. that is it for the panel. stay tuned for a final election message from one of the campaigns. watch this. [ whoosh! ] [ man ] whoo-hoo! [ male announcer ] with reddi wip... that's so weird... [ whoosh! ] [ male announcer ] ...a slice of pie never sounded better. oh, yeah! [ male announcer ] that's because it's always made with real cream, never hydrogenated oil like some other whipped toppings. the sound of reddi wip... [ whoosh ] ...is the sound
and h leaves that will allow obama more leeway cutting the pentagon. otherwise panetta could resign on principle if the sequestration were to happen. that would be embarrassing. >> bret: so you think it doesn't happen? >> i think he will likely be eased out. so there will be somebody more pliable at defense. >> i think the term for is it "flexibility" in this administration, second term. >> malleable. >> the president prefers flexibility. >> he will...
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has trids to have a significant republican at a top position in his cabinet, before bob gates in the pentagon for the better part of the first term. i think he wants to do that again. his instinct towards not necessarily to hagel, although i think he is under consideration for one of the jobs, but it's a good time for the reboot and i think we're going to see that happen. >> it's a complicated reboot, right? we knew that clinton was leaving, geithner wants to go, we heard panetta, those were gives. as tom friedman says -- the whole middle east erupts in one giant sound and light show of civil wars, states collapsing and refugee dislocations as the keystone of the region syria gets pulled under and the disorder across the neighborhood and you were worried about the fiscal cliff. >> governor? >> i think john is right about the personnel changes. this is the time. every administration goes through it. if you're re-elected you're going to have this turnover and this is the best time for it. we didn't want it before the election. john is right you don't want it five months down the road when your
has trids to have a significant republican at a top position in his cabinet, before bob gates in the pentagon for the better part of the first term. i think he wants to do that again. his instinct towards not necessarily to hagel, although i think he is under consideration for one of the jobs, but it's a good time for the reboot and i think we're going to see that happen. >> it's a complicated reboot, right? we knew that clinton was leaving, geithner wants to go, we heard panetta, those...
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and for now, it remains an internal pentagon investigation. meanwhile, you've been in the trenches, you're a career military man, you've been everything from a platoon leader to a commanding general, i want to talk a little bit about morale. as this investigation continues, general allen continues in his post as the top u.s. commander in afghanistan overseeing 68,000 troops there. does this compromise his leadership skills at all? and what does it do to morale? >> well, let me answer that on a couple of levels. first of all, activities like this, and the possibility that there might have been indiscretions like this from the very top guy gives a lot of fodder to those young troops. and so right now in a very cynical way and a very sarcastic way they're having fun with all of this, which is truly unfortunate because this is the senior guy. i can tell you what the forward operating base communications look like right now and they're extremely colorful. and so what it does for the senior commanders, they are still in the room with the boss and th
and for now, it remains an internal pentagon investigation. meanwhile, you've been in the trenches, you're a career military man, you've been everything from a platoon leader to a commanding general, i want to talk a little bit about morale. as this investigation continues, general allen continues in his post as the top u.s. commander in afghanistan overseeing 68,000 troops there. does this compromise his leadership skills at all? and what does it do to morale? >> well, let me answer that...
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again, people's blood should be boiling. >> asked whether the incident was an act of war the pentagon spokesman said he would not legally label it. >>> before you leave the house this morning let's get the first degree weather update for janice dean. what's it looking like for the weekend? >> the eastern half of the country looks quiet. the northeast is quiet. we are going to warm up. man, that is great news, isn't it? we don't have any storms on the horizon for the foreseeable future. that is our nor' easter moving up and towards new england and eastern canada gone. good riddens, right? the west it's your turn to get active weather and it will be quite a winter storm. we have winter weather advisories posted for many states including blizzard warnings for montana. some of the energy will push into the central u.s. this weekend. we could see hail, winds even tornadoes if you live anywhere from northern texas to oklahoma all of the way up to minnesota for tomorrow. the threat extends into sunday for parts of oklahoma. the threat for tornadoes. the quick look at the travel forecast quie
again, people's blood should be boiling. >> asked whether the incident was an act of war the pentagon spokesman said he would not legally label it. >>> before you leave the house this morning let's get the first degree weather update for janice dean. what's it looking like for the weekend? >> the eastern half of the country looks quiet. the northeast is quiet. we are going to warm up. man, that is great news, isn't it? we don't have any storms on the horizon for the...
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he allegedly had what the pentagon calls inappropriate communication with jill kelley. she is the woman believed to have gotten threatening edmonton mails from paula broadwell. >> what of -- i've been told is that there was somebody else that he knew and was close to and that mrs. broadwell sent these threatening e-mails to her and she was frightened and she went to the f.b.i. >> the fbi raided broadwell's home in north carolina last night. no word on any evidence they collected so far. >>> new this morning, former d.c. council chair kwame brown will learn his fate today. he pled guilty to bank fraud charges back in june. melanie alnwick is live with the latest on thto give us an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. kwame brown's original plea agreement where he admitted guilt to all of those charges called for a six-month jail term. prosecutors have oftenned somewhat and sid they are asking that he spend -- have softened somewhat and said they are asking that he send just six days in jail. he pled guilty in june to putting some false information on b
he allegedly had what the pentagon calls inappropriate communication with jill kelley. she is the woman believed to have gotten threatening edmonton mails from paula broadwell. >> what of -- i've been told is that there was somebody else that he knew and was close to and that mrs. broadwell sent these threatening e-mails to her and she was frightened and she went to the f.b.i. >> the fbi raided broadwell's home in north carolina last night. no word on any evidence they collected so...
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commander in afghanistan who is now under investigation by the pentagon's inspector general for what officials described as potentially inappropriate e-mails with one of the women directly involved in the case. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more on this ever-widening story. >> reporter: the scandal involving two very different women, tampa socialite jill kelley and petraeus biographer paul broadwell ensnared not only petraeus but his successor. john allen who took over from petraeus in afghanistan and is the president's choice to be supreme allied commander of nato forces in europe, a nomination now temporarily on hold. >> sweetheart, thank you for all that you have done for me and for our precious -- >> reporter: the general is married with a sterling record but on a flight to australia monday night aides to defense secretary leon panetta said there was a dramatic turn in the case. fbi investigators uncovered potentially inappropriate communications between the general and jill kelley, whom he and his wife got to know in tampa. and were reviewing betw
commander in afghanistan who is now under investigation by the pentagon's inspector general for what officials described as potentially inappropriate e-mails with one of the women directly involved in the case. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more on this ever-widening story. >> reporter: the scandal involving two very different women, tampa socialite jill kelley and petraeus biographer paul broadwell ensnared not only petraeus but his successor. john allen...
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the pentagon now confirms iranian war planes fired on a u.s. drone flying in international airspace. we will follow-up the breaking news unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b" but first from fox at 3:00 in new york city, the second major storm in a week adding insult to injury in the northeast. new york and new jersey are back in the thick of it again. snow and wind snapped weakened trees and downed power lanes. tens of thousands of people lost power. many only just got it back after hurricane sandy. >> no fuel for the generator. i will try to warm up the has. >> my daughter is three. i bundled her up in blankets and put her between my husband and myself. >>shepard: in new jersey, more than 12" of snow. 5" itch -- 5" fell in central park, a record. breezy point is covered in snow this morning with more hardship in a place where so many lost so were. the nor'easter forced fema to shut down ten mobile disaster recovery centers around new york city and rick is on staten island some some of the snow is melting. >> what is incre
the pentagon now confirms iranian war planes fired on a u.s. drone flying in international airspace. we will follow-up the breaking news unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b" but first from fox at 3:00 in new york city, the second major storm in a week adding insult to injury in the northeast. new york and new jersey are back in the thick of it again. snow and wind snapped weakened trees and downed power lanes. tens of thousands of people lost power. many only...
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they're using them as drone attacks as well as the pentagon. who knows what else he's up to but certainly his whole concept of counter insurgency violates the sovereignty of every nation on earth. it's a very dangerous position we're putting ourselves into weapon-wise. we can talk about untold history, where we get into the issue of where we're going, america -- >> i'll get to that. on petraeus, when the scandal broke about him having a mistress, is that grounds enough -- >> in england, it is. >> -- for him to resign? >> in england it is. our puritan morality dictates it. certainly it's not the reasons i would like to see him take a fall. it reminds me of the monica lewinsky scandal. it's tabloid. you love that in england. but here in america, the truth is he should have been long ago investigated far more severely by our media and he got a free pass because of the fruit salad and the congressional -- and in general, the entire american nation, the congress especially, has caved into this military worship of technology. i've seen that in the la
they're using them as drone attacks as well as the pentagon. who knows what else he's up to but certainly his whole concept of counter insurgency violates the sovereignty of every nation on earth. it's a very dangerous position we're putting ourselves into weapon-wise. we can talk about untold history, where we get into the issue of where we're going, america -- >> i'll get to that. on petraeus, when the scandal broke about him having a mistress, is that grounds enough -- >> in...
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the fbi turned it over to the pentagon, and the pentagon has ordered its own investigation. the married general allen denies an improper relationship with kelley. he's currently president obama's choice for supreme allied commander of nato forces in europe. that nomination is on hold. as nbc news reports the president learned of the problems on friday, the same day he accepted petraeus's resignation. that hasn't stopped the con spearary theorists over on fox news. >> who knew about the affair before the leak, and why didn't they speak up? >> the idea that obama would not be told by coincidence two or three days after the election absolutely beyond belief. >> you have to suspend disbelief. >> it appears that the white house is lying again just as it was lying about benghazi. >> how could the fbi pick up something like this in the spring and take months to figure it out? >> we're supposed to believe that an affair involving the hetd of the cia was never discuss. >> did the sex scandal influence benghazi? why president obama didn't know about it? so if he did know about it, the
the fbi turned it over to the pentagon, and the pentagon has ordered its own investigation. the married general allen denies an improper relationship with kelley. he's currently president obama's choice for supreme allied commander of nato forces in europe. that nomination is on hold. as nbc news reports the president learned of the problems on friday, the same day he accepted petraeus's resignation. that hasn't stopped the con spearary theorists over on fox news. >> who knew about the...
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pentagon officials say tre are 20, 30,000 pages of e-mails and documents between allen and jill kelley, the woman who report the she was receiving anonymous e e-mails that were determined to have come from paula broadwell. really? again? the most powerful military force in the world is being taken out by an inbox? really? what happened did you forget your myspace password? really? >> and general allen, 30,000 e-mails? what could you have possibly said in the last 29,990 others that you didn't say in the first ten. >> really? 30,000. where did you find the time? i eat breakfast, come to work, blink and it's time for the show. really? >> no wonder it took us so long to catch bin laden. these guys were probably waiting for him to check in on four square. really? >> really? and don't think you're getting off easy here jill kelley. you tell someone about weird e-mails you're getting and you don't think someone might check your e e-mails? really? it's the fbi. you dent think they are going to follow up? have you never watched an episode of any show ever? really? >> and really unnamed fbi age
pentagon officials say tre are 20, 30,000 pages of e-mails and documents between allen and jill kelley, the woman who report the she was receiving anonymous e e-mails that were determined to have come from paula broadwell. really? again? the most powerful military force in the world is being taken out by an inbox? really? what happened did you forget your myspace password? really? >> and general allen, 30,000 e-mails? what could you have possibly said in the last 29,990 others that you...
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will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the arena. i thought i was going to test him, he tested me, crushed his pelvis. he wanted to help me with the project. he can turn water into bottled water. >> the whole time i was staring at how defined her arms were. [ inaudible ]. i am the worst jurmist in the world. for god's sake the title of her book was "all in." she might as well -- >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. we begin with the broadening and complicated scope of the petraeus investigation that has now ensnared his successor, commander of all forces in afghanistan, general john allen. joining me with their latest reporti
will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the...
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first to jennifer griffin live tonight at the pentagon. jennifer, it feels like there is a puzzle box laid out on a table and half the pieces are missing. >> it brings new meaning to collateral damage, shep. yesterday we thought we were dealing with the fall from grace of one four star jandi one sexual affair. today the woman who started the events jill kelley was found to be in appropriate relationship with the top u.s. commander in afghanistan general john allen. defense officials who are familiar with the hundreds of emails, 30,000 pages worth say that the general and kelley were having the, quote, email equivalent of phone sex. meanwhile petraeus' biographer paula broadwell has hired a lawyer. her father tells the new york daily news this is about something else entirely. the truth ain't come out. you wait and see, there is a lot more here than meets the eye. >> shepard: the email equivalent of phone sex. that is new here tonight. today we learned both of these generals, petraeus and allen, were involved in a custody dispute directly r
first to jennifer griffin live tonight at the pentagon. jennifer, it feels like there is a puzzle box laid out on a table and half the pieces are missing. >> it brings new meaning to collateral damage, shep. yesterday we thought we were dealing with the fall from grace of one four star jandi one sexual affair. today the woman who started the events jill kelley was found to be in appropriate relationship with the top u.s. commander in afghanistan general john allen. defense officials who...
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now the top military commander in afghanistan is being investigated by the pentagon for having inappropriate communications with jill kelley, the woman who first blew the whistle on broadwell's threatening e-mails. oh, boy, here we go. good morning. i'm mika brzezinski, along with joe scarborough, this is "way too early," the show that receives on average about a dozen inappropriate communications from donny deutsch every day. >> every half hour. it's a long story. by the way, shirtless as well. we will talk about that. >> that's on a good day. thanks for being up with us. shoot us an e-mail or tweet u us and let us know why you're awake right now. or do what jill kelley's twin sister does and text the word awake followed by your response to 622639. we'll read the best responses later in the show. >> you kids make sure if your dad sends an e-mail, the shirt stays on. okay? seriously. i'm tired of looking at your dad's bare chest. >>> this will be your cram session for this tuesday, november 13th. there's a lot going on today. >> yeah. >> i mean a lot. including new speculation on who could b
now the top military commander in afghanistan is being investigated by the pentagon for having inappropriate communications with jill kelley, the woman who first blew the whistle on broadwell's threatening e-mails. oh, boy, here we go. good morning. i'm mika brzezinski, along with joe scarborough, this is "way too early," the show that receives on average about a dozen inappropriate communications from donny deutsch every day. >> every half hour. it's a long story. by the way,...
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it is not a -- a -- hooked up to the cia, to the pentagon, anything like that. i mean, so it would -- i mean, what's it going to be about? just about personal items? national security would nover have been at risk with something like this, would it? >> the reality of people in government who use their personal accounts and their government accounts is that anything they do, they're on the clock, and if there's any question about vulnerability, blackmail vulnerability to other people within the government using information in a way that would negatively impact someone else, that needs to be investigated. there's just different standard for people in the intelligence world. and even beyond what normally government or leadership positions about what they -- what the -- the threat they face if they've got any personal vulnerabilities. as i said, one of the bigger mysteries people are curious about this morning is what was this investigation about? how did it start? >> interesting last question, paula broadwell, we have learned, is the woman who is being investigated
it is not a -- a -- hooked up to the cia, to the pentagon, anything like that. i mean, so it would -- i mean, what's it going to be about? just about personal items? national security would nover have been at risk with something like this, would it? >> the reality of people in government who use their personal accounts and their government accounts is that anything they do, they're on the clock, and if there's any question about vulnerability, blackmail vulnerability to other people...
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so does that mean he's willing to stay in the pentagon for four more years? for the pool report, panetta told reporters, quote, who the hell knows? my experience in washington is you'd better do this day-to-day. as we reported friday, one of the candidates for panetta's job, when he does go, is actually senator john kerry who is being considered for defense essentially as a consolation prize if he does not get the state department job which is what he truly covets because the assumption right now is, and there's a lot of support for her inside the white house, the president will nominate susan rice to succeed hillary clinton instead. but if rice does get nominated she could have a pretty big confirmation battle on her hands. many republicans, including a guy like south carolina senator lindsey graham who normally ends up confirming a lot of the president's appointments, did in the first term, is promising a brutal confirmation pick if rice is picked. >> i'm not entertaining promoting anybody that i think was involved with the benghazi debacle. i'm not going t
so does that mean he's willing to stay in the pentagon for four more years? for the pool report, panetta told reporters, quote, who the hell knows? my experience in washington is you'd better do this day-to-day. as we reported friday, one of the candidates for panetta's job, when he does go, is actually senator john kerry who is being considered for defense essentially as a consolation prize if he does not get the state department job which is what he truly covets because the assumption right...
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senior officials here at the pentagon have decided it will take new military leadership to do it. defense secretary robert gates mcmckiernan in afghanistan last week to break the bad news, but waited until today to announce it. >> i asked for the resignation of general david mckiernan. >> gates and obama relieving him of command. when they did that and relieved him of command as the lead american commander of the war in afghanistan, that was the first time since general truman fired douglas mcarthur during the korean war that a president relieved a four-star commanding general in the middle of the war he was leading. when president obama did that it was the first time in 58 years anything like that happened in this country, and then he did it again. after he fired the man who was running the war when he took office, the replacement general that president obama sent to lead the war thereafter was this guy, general stanley mcchrystal. there was a immediate contracult around him as around david petraeus. a year after general mcchrisle tal took command, he, too, was fired by president
senior officials here at the pentagon have decided it will take new military leadership to do it. defense secretary robert gates mcmckiernan in afghanistan last week to break the bad news, but waited until today to announce it. >> i asked for the resignation of general david mckiernan. >> gates and obama relieving him of command. when they did that and relieved him of command as the lead american commander of the war in afghanistan, that was the first time since general truman fired...
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first, to jennifer griffin working at the pentagon. how did both general allen and general petraeus know the woman named jill kelley? >>reporter: general allen was the deputy of general petraeus when he was the head in tampa bay, florida in 2010. jill kelley a well-known socialite in tampa bay, married to a, reunient surgeon and she hosted parties for top military brass at central command and would shop with general petraeus' wife holly, their families spent christmas together, and allen exchanged hundreds of e-mails that were 20,000 to 30,000 pages long when printed out with jill kelley and many characterized as being flirtatious but not security-related or dealing with government contracts, her end froms say they were harmless and might have included sweetheart here and there and allen insists he did not have a sexual affair with jill kelley and paula broadwell has hired an attorney. and her father told the newspaper that this is about something else entirely and the truth will come out. there is a lot more that going to come out. yo
first, to jennifer griffin working at the pentagon. how did both general allen and general petraeus know the woman named jill kelley? >>reporter: general allen was the deputy of general petraeus when he was the head in tampa bay, florida in 2010. jill kelley a well-known socialite in tampa bay, married to a, reunient surgeon and she hosted parties for top military brass at central command and would shop with general petraeus' wife holly, their families spent christmas together, and allen...
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the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general petraeus. joining me now is michael isikoff, national investigative correspondent for nbc news. he's been breaking some of the big details on this case over the last few days. michael, first, thanks for being here tonight. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> now, let me ask, general allen is now under investigation for his relationship with jill kelley. what can you tell us about the relationship and what can you tell us about miss kelley. >> we should say we don't know for sure. as you pointed out, the e-mails, these voluminous -- apparently voluminous e-mails describe a relationship or -- that appear to be flirtatious but, you know, potentially inappropriate is the word that was first used by the pentagon. but whether it goes more than that, we don't know. we do know that at least one woman, paula broad
the pentagon is looking at more than 20,000 pages of documents and e-mails between kelley and general allen. 20,000. officials tell the ap that some of the material was, quote, flirtatious. general allen denies having an affair with kelley, who we know was also friends with general petraeus. joining me now is michael isikoff, national investigative correspondent for nbc news. he's been breaking some of the big details on this case over the last few days. michael, first, thanks for being here...